Star Wars: The Force Awakens Discussion - SPOILERS INSIDE

[Nwahs]

Well defended Logan!

And holy sh*t that's a lot of memes for a character that I didn't realize was that popular or interesting or memorable!

[Iolo'pax]

Yeah I went through that list too, I think Logan covers everything well enough. I think it is just a haters list. I mean, did the first Star Wars have rock solid logic? (See Blue Harvest or any of the Robot Chicken SW Episodes).

 

 

 

[Lohgan]

Saw this posted online. They said that the Inquisitors would have a connection to TFA. It would make sense due to Kylo Ren wanting to finish what Vader started. The Inquisitors were all about hunting down the Jedi. With that said...what the heck happened to his tattoos if this is him...unless it was just war paint? The speculation continues.

 

[Z'inn]

This is my theory, The new Dark Lord IMO is Darth Plagueis.

Rey is like the image above, now that being said, there is so much info online, the game, that was out, that Disney took down and updated, from cousin to curses. Now if you watch clone wars cartoon, Obe-wan, had a  girlfriends.

Who knows after the order died he did not father children.

[Frost290]

Wasn't it confirmed that Anakin was literally conceived from the force which is why the virgin birth was a big deal?

[Nwahs]

Yes I believe so Frost

[P-Rife]

In the Darth Plagius book they made it sound like he and Palpatine were working on creating life and they didn't know where the load landed but were pretty sure it worked.

[Kayllek Veran]

Frost290 wrote:

Wasn't it confirmed that Anakin was literally conceived from the force which is why the virgin birth was a big deal?

 Yes, the deal behind it was a play on Jesus.  Virgin Birth:  Jesus Christ/ Anakin Skywalker THE CHOSEN ONE!

It fits.

And yeah, like my first post had said, I'm all aboard the Plagueis Train.  I talk my friends' ears off about my different theories :)

[Lohgan]

Anakin was born with no father but that doesn't mean that Darth Plagueis didn't play a part in it. If he can create life...he could have manipulated Force (not using the M word) to create the ultimate Force user. Palpatine discovers this and then kills off Plagueis and takes over watching over Anakin.

As far as Plagueis...Andy Serkis was just interviewed and he said Snoke is not Plagueis. Now, he could be lying...lol.

[Kayllek Veran]

Kod1ak wrote:

Anakin was born with no father but that doesn't mean that Darth Plagueis didn't play a part in it. If he can create life...he could have manipulated Force (not using the M word) to create the ultimate Force user. Palpatine discovers this and then kills off Plagueis and takes over watching over Anakin.

 Well...

False.  They created Jar Jar.  :P

But yeah, idk why, but I like that theory.  But then it just goes against the entire Prophecy! 

[Seuhae]

Iceroid wrote:

I agree that not all of the points are valid/relevant, but the point still stands that for a movie of TFA's scale, they should have paid better attention to creating a more coherent story.

 It is a trilogy, so expect there to be plot holes in the first installment.  Otherwise, what would be the point in doing a 3 part story?  If this was a stand alone film then I would be more inclined to agree.  

There are still open plot holes from the original trilogy.  One is being filled in by the Rogue One movie.  Also, some of the "plot holes" from SWTFA are covered in the new canon books.  

[Nwahs]

Kayllek Veran wrote:

But then it just goes against the entire Prophecy!

 Why?

[Frost290]

Wasn't the prophecy like in the darkest of times that there would be someone created through the force that would bring balance to it?

Although I guess that could also mean that Plagueis created the downfall of the sith at the same time without realizing it?

[Nwahs]

That's how I perceive it.  The Force "used" Plagiues against himself.  It allowed the creation of Anakin, which would eventually end the Sith.  

[Kayllek Veran]

Nwahs Nirom wrote:

Kayllek Veran wrote:   But then it just goes against the entire Prophecy!   Why?

 Nevermind, idk why.  I just don't want Plagueis behind Anakin.

As Wookieepedia puts it:

The prophecy of the Chosen One was a Jedi legend that foretold the coming of a being who would bring balance to the Force. In the decades before the Clone Wars, the Chosen One was born in the form of Anakin Skywalker, who was said to have been conceived by the midi-chlorians.^[1] Skywalker brought balance to the Force when he killed Galactic Emperor Darth Sidious to save his own son, Luke Skywalker, during the Battle of Endor.^[2]